Post Office Horizon Inquiry: Search the Evidence

…now? MS HODGE: No we can hear you perfectly, thank you. SIR WYN WILLIAMS: Fine. Our next witness is Mr Copping. PETER JAMES COPPING (sworn) Questioned by MS HODGE MS HODGE: Please give your full name. A. Peter James Copping. Q. You should have in front of you a witness statement, dated 2 September of this year. A. Yes. Q. Could I ask you…

…now? MS HODGE: No we can hear you perfectly, thank you. SIR WYN WILLIAMS: Fine. Our next witness is Mr Copping. PETER JAMES COPPING (sworn) Questioned by MS HODGE MS HODGE: Please give your full name. A. Peter James Copping. Q. You should have in front of you a witness statement, dated 2 September of this year. A. Yes. Q. Could I ask you…

ection of 159 Horizon IT Inquiry 21 October 2022 and under the attendees you're listed first, as the expert, Peter Copping, and the first item that appears to have been discussed is Acceptance I ection of 159 Horizon IT Inquiry 21 October 2022 and under the attendees you're listed first, as the expert, Peter Copping, and the first item th…

…..... 1 Questioned by MR BLAKE (continued) ............... 1 Questioned by MR STEIN ......................... 95 PETER JAMES COPPING (sworn) ................ 100 Questioned by MS HODGE ....................... 100 Questioned by MR STEIN ........................ 180 Questioned by MS PAGE ......................... 184 187 Horizon IT Inquiry…

…, sir. SIR WYN WILLIAMS: Good morning, Mr Blake. MR BLAKE: The next witness is Mr Sewell. SIR WYN WILLIAMS: Yes. PETER JAMES SEWELL (sworn) Questioned by MR BLAKE MR BLAKE: Thank you very much. Can you give your full name, please? A. Peter James Sewell. Q. Mr Sewell, you should have in front of you a witness statement. I think it's either…

…, sir. SIR WYN WILLIAMS: Good morning, Mr Blake. MR BLAKE: The next witness is Mr Sewell. SIR WYN WILLIAMS: Yes. PETER JAMES SEWELL (sworn) Questioned by MR BLAKE MR BLAKE: Thank you very much. Can you give your full name, please? A. Peter James Sewell. Q. Mr Sewell, you should have in front of you a witness

…nel, but originated in PA's own investigations. Q. Can I just pause you there for one moment? A. Yes. Q. I think Peter Copping's evidence was that there was no separate report and that this report was effectively taking on board the points they made. Am I right in saying that there was a different -- there was, in fact, a separate report…

…see an agenda for one of those workshops at POL00090010, please. This is obviously a fax header sheet from you, Peter Copping to Peter Crahan, who was a senior figure in the Benefits Agency and Mr David Miller at the Horizon programme office and Mr Mike Coombs at ICL Pathway. On the following page, please, your letter confirming that you…

…see an agenda for one of those workshops at POL00090010, please. This is obviously a fax header sheet from you, Peter Copping to Peter Crahan, who was a senior figure in the Benefits Agency and Mr David Miller at the Horizon programme office and Mr Mike Coombs at ICL Pathway. On the following page, please, your letter confirming that you…

….......... 1 Questioned by MS PRICE (continued) ............. 1 Questioned by MS PAGE ....................... 17 PETER JAMES SEWELL (sworn) ............... 21 Questioned by MR BLAKE ...................... 21 Questioned by MS PAGE ...................... 124 Questioned by MS PATRICK ................... 130 DONNA MARIA MUNRO (affirmed) .....…

…collection of 159 Horizon IT Inquiry 21 October 2022 and under the attendees you're listed first, as the expert, Peter Copping, and the first item that appears to have been discussed is Acceptance I

…e? A. I'm concerned and certainly DSS are. I think this is the time at which we asked -- I think you will see in Peter Copping, later on today -- we asked PA to come in and do an independent review of where we were to see -- in mid-'97, to check because, you know, one slippage on a no-fault re-plan, soon after contract letting, as we are…

…ir lives. Speaker Si I N Q00001050 IN000001050 Stage 1 hearing session: transcript iii iiL*iiEJ Yeah. Thank you. Peter, if I could just come back to you for a moment, if that's okay. Mark's talking there about the sense of shame and so on. I wonder, going back to my question, looking back on your story, do you have any moments you could d…

…is point one is talking about technical viability: will the system work? Will it do what it's supposed to do? Q. Peter Copping of PA Consulting has given evidence to this Inquiry, and he has described the task that he was asked to carry out for this expert panel as "calibrating the art of the possible", rather than looking at, for example…

…179 Horizon IT Inquiry 21 October 2022 wording in the enclosure is that suggested by Pathway and recommended by Peter Copping. We were not able to agree it yesterday because we don't have the right people available to review it. Can John and Ruth look and comment to me? Copied to Jeff Triggs, please." So can we turn to the following page…