Sheku Bayoh Inquiry: Search the Evidence

police. Q. Thank you. You mention a meeting that you had with Kate Frame, who was the Commissioner at the time. Could we look at paragraph 51, please. Do you remember when you had your Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry first meeting with Kate Frame? A. Mm-hmm. Q. When was that? How long after 3 May? A. I can't remember the timeframe o…

…ayoh Inquiry Tuesday, 5 March 2024 (10.00 am) LORD BRACADALE: Good morning, Ms Frame. Will you take the oath. MS KATE FRAME (sworn) LORD BRACADALE: Ms Grahame. Questions from MS GRAHAME MS GRAHAME: Thank you. Good morning, Ms Frame. A. Good morning, Ms Grahame. Q. You are Kate Frame? A. Yes. Q. What age are you? A. 64. Q. You worked with…

…s to questions that 171 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry were asked by my learned friend in connection with Kate Frame and Dr Karch. He was asked whether or not the Commissioner or anyone else in PIRC came back to him about matters around about the November of that year to ask further questions about it, and his answer was that he di…

ed it brought up unless -- oh, it's available, thank you. Kate Frame's statement paragraph 162, thank you. So we see paragraph 162 starts: "She then said that the man had been seen ..." Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry This is Kate Frame referencing Irene Scullion: "She then said that the man had been seen chasing after cars with a k…

…assist the 110 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry investigation." So it would appear in relation to this that Kate Frame, the Commissioner, then issued her own statement that was not forwarded to crown for comment before it was released to the media. And do you remember these events? A. I'm afraid I don't remember the specifics, no. Q.…

…tory of CAAPD. I was appointed to CAAPD towards the end of 2014 and, as I said in my statement, I took over from Kate Frame, who of course became the commissioner at PIRC and I think that Kate Frame was the first head of national CAAPD, if that assists. Q. Kate Frame, and we've had heard from her, she was the first head of CAAPD and then…

…ge used in the officers' statements. Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry A. Yes. Q. And we heard evidence from Kate Frame in relation to this matter and that I think ultimately, and it will be a matter for the Chair, that she noticed that analysis about the language did not feature in the PIRC report. And that ultimately, as I understan…

erstanding of the position. A. Okay. Q. Kate Frame, I am advised was present, she is certainly minuted as being present -- A. Yes. Q. -- along with the Lord Advocate, John Mitchell, 154 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry Les Brown from Crown Office? A. Yes. Q. And it was a meeting with the PIRC on 14 May. A. Okay. Q. If you take that f…

…. But I don't recall any direct conversation with her. Q. If I may read from you, this is a statement given from Kate Frame and she is told -- she says she is repeating something told by Ms Scullion, so Kate Frame's statement -- I don't need it brought up unless -- oh, it's available, thank you. Kate Frame's statement paragraph 162, thank…

erstanding of the position. A. Okay. Q. Kate Frame, I am advised was present, she is certainly minuted as being present -- A. Yes. Q. -- along with the Lord Advocate, John Mitchell, 154 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry Les Brown from Crown Office? A. Yes. Q. And it was a meeting with the PIRC on 14 May. A. Okay. Q. If you take that f…

…ssioner when it became PIRC on 1 April and continued in that role until 2014, I believe, when he was replaced by Kate Frame. Q. We may hear from Kate Frame later that she started in August 2014? A. Yes, that would be right. Q. That would tie in with what you are saying? A. Yes, from memory that would be correct. Q. So the Commissioner for…

…thereafter." 137 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry However, in evidence which was put to him in relation to Kate Frame, Kate Frame says herself that she was aware of the family's wishes too, and I quote lines 37/9: "Question: And you were aware of the family's wishes too. By that I am understanding you understood and you were aware t…

Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry Wednesday, 6 March 2024 (10.00 am) MS KATE FRAME (continued) Questions from MS GRAHAME (continued) LORD BRACADALE: Good morning Ms Frame. Ms Grahame. MS GRAHAME: Thank you very much. Good morning Ms Frame. A. Good morning Ms Grahame. Q. Yesterday we were looking at some guidelines, PIRC guidelines in…

…ssioner when it became PIRC on 1 April and continued in that role until 2014, I believe, when he was replaced by Kate Frame. Q. We may hear from Kate Frame later that she started in August 2014? A. Yes, that would be right. Q. That would tie in with what you are saying? A. Yes, from memory that would be correct. Q. So the Commissioner for…

…as I say. Q. Thank you. Could we look at SPF 000205, please. Do we see here that this is the letter of 5 June to Kate Frame and this is the letter from, as I understand it at the bottom it should say Calum Steele, General Secretary? A. General Secretary, yes. Q. So that was his role at that time. A. Yes, I appreciate that. Q. Can we then…