Sheku Bayoh Inquiry: Search the Evidence

…CADALE: Well, good morning. Ms Grahame, who is the witness this morning? MS GRAHAME: The witness this morning is Amanda Givan. LORD BRACADALE: Good morning, Ms Givan. A. Good morning. LORD BRACADALE: You're going to be asked questions by Ms Grahame, whom you have already met, but before that I will put you on oath, so if you raise your ha…

…and those control measures were Sergeant Maxwell, who he admitted wasn't independent, but also he indicated that Amanda Givan was a control measure. What I would like to discuss or explore with this witness is the timings of Amanda Givan, when she arrived, where she went, because we understand -- the Inquiry may recall that Amanda Givan a…

…that you're chairing that. There are two representatives from the Scottish Police Federation: David Kennedy and Amanda Givan. Now, this inquiry has heard that Amanda Givan was in fact present on the day of the incident of Sheku Bayoh back at the police station and the Inquiry has heard of evidence that she's been able to provide in respe…

…, you're going to be asked some questions by Ms Mitchell, senior counsel for the Bayoh families. Ms Mitchell. PC AMANDA GIVAN (continued) Questions from MS MITCHELL MS MITCHELL: I'm obliged. You spoke in your evidence about becoming aware that PIRC was involved on the day of the incident, is that correct? A. Yes, that's correct, yes. Q. D…

…script of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry that room, and we had the discussion whose room was it and I said at that time Amanda Givan comes in, introduces herself and gives me her business card, and that was round about 10.15/10.30. Q. So was that the first time you had met Amanda Givan that day? A. Yes. Q. And the second time was -- A. Was down…

paragraph 50 of your Inquiry statement, please. Sorry, 50, 5-0. Sorry. You say: "I recall Amanda Givan attending at the canteen and stating that we should not discuss the circumstances of 171 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry the incident." Do you recall that? A. Yeah. Q. Was it Amanda Givan who you referred to as a senior officer, or…

let's look at paragraph 82 in relation to Amanda Givan. You have said that your status wasn't officially clarified until some days later: "I acted on the advice of the Scottish Police 162 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry Federation representative, Amanda Givan, that I had the right to delay in the providing of a statement until such…

…that the choreography and the sequence of events leads me to the Gold Group to explain only due to the fact that Amanda Givan has given me that advice and that direction and I was only in the canteen on one occasion and that was when I spoke to Amanda Givan and also the officers at that time in the morning. Q. So you talked before the bre…

uld need to be completed. Q. Okay. Can I ask you about any other discussions that you had with Amanda Givan. So I will refer you -- your paragraph 82 in your statement mentions this and it Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry 123 says: "We were joined by Police Federation representative Amanda Givan at some time that morning and later by…

…it in, do it, but wait and see what's asked of us first or what the process is. Q. And then can I ask you about Amanda Givan. She -- you say the advice from Amanda Givan was to say nothing to anyone at that time. Do you remember what she said in the canteen. A. No. Q. No. Okay. Do you remember if she said anything about your status or se…

…know. And then you've come down and you Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry mention speaking to Jane Combe and Amanda Givan. A. Yeah. Q. Was that what you would call a briefing to them? A. About the PIM process, yes, not about the incident. Q. Tell us what -- had you met Amanda Givan before? A. No. Q. There's two officers you've not met…

s I had that engagement with Amanda Givan. Q. And you've said a couple of times that her advice to the officers was not to provide operational statements prior to getting legal advice? 172 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry A. Yes. Q. Now, we've heard evidence from Amanda Givan and when we discussed this with her, she indicated that it…

the document, but I can't remember what exactly he said. Q. And returning to Amanda Givan, could we look briefly at your PIRC statement, please, page 14. Third paragraph down, you say: 172 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry "I seem to remember Amanda Givan giving us advice, but I do not wish to discuss what was advised. I have not been…

…when he arrived. Q. So this may have been before he arrived? A. Possibly, he just wasn't there. Q. But certainly Amanda Givan was with the officers at that point in time? A. Yeah, yeah. Q. I appreciate that your role was a welfare one but as a senior officer yourself do you have any concerns around the officers being together in that way…

other senior officers whose identities I am no longer sure of and from Amanda Givan". A. Yes. Q. Do you remember how many other senior officers gave you those similar instructions? 168 Transcript of the Sheku Bayoh Inquiry A. I don't know. There was -- during the course of the day there was various senior officers came and went. They were…