Fifth report: Obsolescent and outgunned: the British Army’s armoured vehicle capability
Select Committee
Defence Committee
HC 659
14 March 2021
Government response
First Special Report: Obsolescent and outgunned: the British Army’s armoured vehicle capability: Government Response to the Committee’s Fifth Report of Session 2019–21 · published 21 May 2021
Recommendations & Conclusions
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Conclusion
Accepted
Para 18
Even in the sorry recent history of the Army’s attempts to procure Armoured Fighting Vehicles,...
Conclusion
Even in the sorry recent history of the Army’s attempts to procure Armoured Fighting Vehicles, MRAV—now Boxer—stands out as a stark example of how shifting priorities and indecision about requirements lead to increased costs and failure to deliver new capabilities.
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Government Response Summary
The government provides background on past delays and outlines how many lessons from 2011 have already been implemented through new acquisition systems, the Army Operating Model, and DE&S transformation, leading to improved procurement approaches.
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Conclusion
Accepted
Para 23
The Ministry of Defence and the Army embarked on a series of overly-ambitious procurement programmes...
Conclusion
The Ministry of Defence and the Army embarked on a series of overly-ambitious procurement programmes which were too reliant on the development of nascent technologies in order to deliver viable capabilities; within these programmes; and, there was a reluctance to …
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Government Response Summary
The government states that Defence acquisition has improved, implementing previous observations by trading requirements and pursuing off-the-shelf solutions, and is committed to more realistic performance, cost, and time requirements. The Land Industrial Strategy will adopt a longer-term procurement approach with incremental technology insertion.
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Conclusion
Accepted
Para 24
Procurement practices and skills were frequently found wanting; in 2011 the NAO concluded that the...
Conclusion
Procurement practices and skills were frequently found wanting; in 2011 the NAO concluded that the failure to introduce any new vehicles since 1997 indicated that, “the Department’s standard acquisition processes for armoured vehicles was not working”. Subsequently the Committee of …
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Government Response Summary
The government notes the committee's comments and acknowledges past challenges, stating its approach has significantly evolved over the past decade with improved management and a new three-step approvals process, which the NAO has recognized as making progress.
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Recommendation
Accepted
We are concerned that the Ministry of Defence, and in particular Defence Equipment and Support...
Recommendation
We are concerned that the Ministry of Defence, and in particular Defence Equipment and Support may not have sufficient technically qualified staff and capacity to manage effectively the multiple armoured vehicle procurement and upgrade programmes that are currently underway. Given …
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Government Response Summary
The government notes the committee's concerns about staff capacity, stating that DE&S has undergone significant transformation focusing on skills, functional management, and professional qualifications, and is committed to continued growth, recruitment, and retention of optimal skills. It acknowledges headcount pressures as a challenge.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 27
We are astonished that between 1997 and late 2020 (with the exception of a small...
Recommendation
We are astonished that between 1997 and late 2020 (with the exception of a small number of armoured engineering and Viking protected mobility vehicles) the Department had not delivered a single new armoured vehicle from the core procurement programme into …
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Government Response Summary
The government disputes the premise of no new armoured vehicles, listing several programs delivered, but confirms that the NAO has already acted on the committee's recommendation to conduct a study into AFV procurement, which the Department will fully support.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 38
We note that the Department’s recent experience of upgrading older vehicles with new weapons and...
Recommendation
We note that the Department’s recent experience of upgrading older vehicles with new weapons and turrets has been difficult, resulting in additional costs and delays 54 Obsolescent and outgunned: the British Army’s armoured vehicle capability in delivering the required capability. …
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Government Response Summary
The government confirms that off-the-shelf alternatives were considered and explains why the CR2 LEP was chosen as a better value solution. It provides a detailed timetable for the CR2 LEP programme up to 2031 and explains that the auto-loader option was dismissed on capability and technical grounds.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 39
We do not want to see the Army forced to ensure a lengthy capability gap...
Recommendation
We do not want to see the Army forced to ensure a lengthy capability gap as a consequence of emergent technical and integration issues. The Department should confirm to us that the UK’s main battle tank capability is currently fit …
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Government Response Summary
The government confirms that while Challenger 2 requires modernisation, the Challenger 2 Life Extension Project (CR2 LEP) has been approved, and the Army is committed to ensuring its smooth and timely delivery. Detailed plans are now under development for the transition to Challenger 3 to ensure future capabilities are fit for purpose.
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Conclusion
Acknowledged
Para 42
Despite having spent around 50% of the allocated budget (£800 million), the programme has yet...
Conclusion
Despite having spent around 50% of the allocated budget (£800 million), the programme has yet to place a manufacturing contract. The programme has a current in-service date of 2024 (originally planned for 2017) and is some £227 million over budget. …
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Government Response Summary
The government notes the committee’s concerns regarding the Warrior CSP's failures, attributing them to technical challenges. It states that the Warrior upgrade has been cancelled as part of the Integrated Review and that a programme of acquisition reform, with new systems for lesson identification and checks and balances, is addressing these issues for future programmes.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 44
The Ministry, which mandated this weapons system, should therefore now be fully transparent about the...
Recommendation
The Ministry, which mandated this weapons system, should therefore now be fully transparent about the cost of this new, highly specialised ammunition and its implications for the full life-cycle costs of the vehicle (and indeed for Ajax, which utilises the …
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Government Response Summary
The government agrees on the need for transparency and explains the higher cost of the 40mm ammunition reflects increased capability, with overall costs reduced through increased effectiveness and cooperation with France. It confirms that a Full Business Case in 2019 outlined the estimated whole life costs for 40mm ammunition, subject to internal independent assurance.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 47
We note the significant delay and expenditure on the continuation of the Warrior CSP and...
Recommendation
We note the significant delay and expenditure on the continuation of the Warrior CSP and that, after nine years and over £400 million in sunk costs, the Department has still to decide on the placement of a production contract. We …
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Government Response Summary
The government has decided to no longer upgrade Warrior, instead accelerating the Boxer programme to become the primary mechanised infantry platform for the Army by 2030, as part of the 'Future Soldier' transformation.
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Conclusion
Acknowledged
Para 50
The first vehicles were originally due to be delivered to the British Army in April...
Conclusion
The first vehicles were originally due to be delivered to the British Army in April 2017, however this was delayed. In May 2020 it emerged that the delivery of the first batch of Ajax vehicles was to be delayed further …
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Government Response Summary
The government acknowledged concerns about AJAX delivery delays, explaining that technical challenges related to digitisation, system complexity, and 40mm weapon integration are being collaboratively addressed with the Prime Contractor.
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Recommendation
Accepted in Part
Para 51
The Ajax programme, which is now also seriously delayed, is yet another example of chronic...
Recommendation
The Ajax programme, which is now also seriously delayed, is yet another example of chronic mismanagement by the Ministry of Defence and its shaky procurement apparatus. This is particularly worrying, as Ajax is fundamental to the establishment and deployment of …
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Government Response Summary
The government denies that the 40mm cannon contributed to AJAX delays but justifies its selection based on superior lethality and advanced ammunition capabilities, stating it was approved by HMT, IAB, and the Minister for Defence Equipment and Support in March 2008.
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Recommendation
Not Addressed
Para 54
We note that difficulties with the Ajax programme have again arisen in part as a...
Recommendation
We note that difficulties with the Ajax programme have again arisen in part as a consequence of the Army’s desire to develop a bespoke vehicle capability (albeit one based on an existing but modified ASCOD 2 hull), with a plethora …
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Government Response Summary
The government states that Ajax issues are being addressed and learning is informing improved approaches. However, it explicitly states there are no current plans for an Infantry Fighting Vehicle variant of AJAX and does not explain how the IFV role would be fulfilled if the Warrior programme does not proceed.
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Recommendation
Accepted in Part
Para 57
We recognise that the Army must prioritise its equipment spending to specific areas of capability,...
Recommendation
We recognise that the Army must prioritise its equipment spending to specific areas of capability, but consider it unacceptable that the replacement of the FV430 series may not be in service until the 2030s, meaning that this vehicle will have …
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Government Response Summary
The government defended the continued use of the FV430 series, stating that analysis for its replacement (ASV) will be completed to identify future requirements which *may* deliver an earlier Out of Service Date, and provided an update on the 'digital spine' through the MSI project and LOSA.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 60
We welcome the decision to procure the Boxer armoured vehicle for the British Army, albeit...
Recommendation
We welcome the decision to procure the Boxer armoured vehicle for the British Army, albeit more than ten years later than would have been the case had the UK stayed in the original multi-national consortium. As part of the Integrated …
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Government Response Summary
The government agrees on the desirability of accelerating Boxer procurement, stating the MOD intends to accelerate and enhance the programme to deliver full operational capability by 2030. It confirms the programme will learn lessons from previous failures and plans for iterative upgrades throughout Boxer's life, avoiding additional requirements during initial delivery.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 61
We believe that commonality of platforms and modularity of capability such as sensors and weapon...
Recommendation
We believe that commonality of platforms and modularity of capability such as sensors and weapon systems will be an essential element in maintaining an effective and capable Army. The Department should ensure that future decisions around procuring new vehicles give …
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Government Response Summary
The government fully supports commonality and modularity, outlining that the Land Equipment Platform Strategy will reduce platform types and the Army has adopted LOSA and Generic Vehicle Architecture. It details how modularity will be achieved through 'Through Life Capability Management Plans,' Installation Provision Made in Design, and robust mission system architecture, with work ongoing to ensure compatibility with allies.
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Recommendation
Not Addressed
Para 65
We are alarmed by the revelation to this inquiry that a core aspect of the...
Recommendation
We are alarmed by the revelation to this inquiry that a core aspect of the plans set out in the 2015 SDSR will not be met. In its response to this Report the Ministry of Defence should provide a detailed …
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Government Response Summary
The government states that the 2015 SDSR ambitions faced challenges due to pressure on the modernisation program. It claims to have learned from this, fully resourcing the recent Integrated Review with £24 billion in additional funding, but does not provide the detailed explanation of specific shortfalls, their identification, or rectification timelines as requested.
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Conclusion
Accepted
Para 72
While we welcome the ongoing efforts to modernise the fleet, new vehicles will only trickle...
Conclusion
While we welcome the ongoing efforts to modernise the fleet, new vehicles will only trickle into service over the next four years, and it seems unlikely that they will do so in sufficient numbers to make a material difference by …
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Government Response Summary
The government acknowledges the concern about delivery timelines and states that with the CR2 LEP approved, a joint effort is investigating ways to accelerate its delivery and that work is ongoing to accelerate Boxer. Findings are due to the Secretary of State by the end of 2021 for formal adjustment.
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Conclusion
Accepted
Para 76
An “artillery duel” between a modern British and Russian division would now only be likely...
Conclusion
An “artillery duel” between a modern British and Russian division would now only be likely to end one way—and not necessarily to the British Army’s advantage.
Government Response Summary
The government dismisses the premise of a direct divisional artillery duel with Russia. However, it details significant investments including £800 million for the Mobile Fires Platform, upgrades to the MLRS, and collaborative development of extended-range missiles to enhance artillery capabilities.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 77
We share our witnesses’ concern that, considering recent experience in Ukraine and elsewhere, UK armoured...
Recommendation
We share our witnesses’ concern that, considering recent experience in Ukraine and elsewhere, UK armoured forces may find themselves at a serious disadvantage in terms of artillery capability and air defence when facing a peer adversary. The Ministry of Defence …
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Government Response Summary
The government agrees this is a top priority and outlines specific programmes to address shortfalls, including the Land Ground-Based Air Defence Programme for air and anti-drone capabilities, with the Counter-Small-UAS project adding mass from 2023. For artillery, it details the Mobile Fires Platform and Tracked General Munitions Indirect programmes, which aim to future-proof indirect fires capability.
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Conclusion
Acknowledged
It is alarming that for at least the next several years UK armoured forces may...
Conclusion
It is alarming that for at least the next several years UK armoured forces may find themselves overmatched by their most challenging peer adversary. During the Cold War, the British Army and its NATO counterparts sought to offset the numerical …
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Government Response Summary
The government acknowledges the concept of overmatch but asserts it is not simply quantity versus quantity, outlining its modernization program to ensure the Army can overmatch adversaries across the battlespace and deal with new threats.
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Recommendation
Accepted
We share Brigadier Barry’s concern about the message that any reductions in the Army’s ability...
Recommendation
We share Brigadier Barry’s concern about the message that any reductions in the Army’s ability to conduct high-intensity warfighting in defence of NATO may send to both our allies and adversaries. Whatever the specific conclusions that emerge from the Integrated …
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Government Response Summary
The government states that the Integrated Review will radically transform the Army, committing to significant investments including c£1.3 billion for Challenger 3 upgrades, accelerated Boxer procurement, a new ground-based air defence system, and substantial funding for GMLRS, Mobile Fires Platform, and electronic warfare.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 90
The lack of a credible short-range air defence system for our land forces, especially in...
Recommendation
The lack of a credible short-range air defence system for our land forces, especially in light of the rapidly increasing threat from unmanned aerial vehicles, is of particular concern. We have already noted in Chapter 3 that the Army is …
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Government Response Summary
The government acknowledged the need for Ground Based Air Defence (GBAD) and outlined programmes to deliver SHORAD/MRAD capabilities from 2026, a Counter-small UAS capability by 2023, and anti-tank missile capability through the Battle Group Organic Anti-Armour (BGOAA) programme.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 96
We share the concerns of our witnesses and our predecessors.
Recommendation
We share the concerns of our witnesses and our predecessors. It appears that, as part of the Integrated Review, there is a risk that the Army’s current armoured capabilities (albeit in need of modernisation) are at risk of being denuded …
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Government Response Summary
The government states its current modernisation programme aims to create an advanced fleet that will adapt to emerging threats through iterative enhancements and upgrades, aligning with the committee's recommendation. It emphasizes focused R&D with allies and the Land Industrial Strategy's goal of iteratively upgrading capabilities when technology is mature.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 98
The Department must ensure that Project Morpheus is adequately resourced with technically qualified staff to...
Recommendation
The Department must ensure that Project Morpheus is adequately resourced with technically qualified staff to facilitate coordination and integration with its current and planned armoured vehicle programmes. Based on the Department’s track record in the Land sector we are concerned …
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Government Response Summary
The government describes the ongoing LETacCIS program as the digital backbone, detailing recently achieved milestones and future competitions. It outlines the "Evolutionary Capability Delivery" principle to rapidly field new technology and respond to threats, aiming to avoid obsolescence through modular upgrades and optimized approval processes.
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Recommendation
Accepted
Para 103
We support the Ministry of Defence’s initiative to develop a Land Industrial Strategy.
Recommendation
We support the Ministry of Defence’s initiative to develop a Land Industrial Strategy. The LIS should place the land sector on an equal footing with the Air and Maritime sectors, providing industry with certainty for the coming decades and ensuring …
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Government Response Summary
The government commits to developing and introducing a Land Industrial Strategy, acknowledging its importance and stating it will envision an innovative, globally competitive segment. It confirms that co-operation with allies in the Land Domain will be a central theme of the strategy.
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Recommendation
Deferred
We agree that it is important the Ministry of Defence maximises the collaborative opportunities offered...
Recommendation
We agree that it is important the Ministry of Defence maximises the collaborative opportunities offered by the recent investments in the UK’s armoured vehicles sector. The Department should ensure that it leverages these advantages by making a clear decision about …
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Government Response Summary
The government states its Future Ground Combat System is in concept phase and will replace capability around 2040. The UK has observer status in the Franco-German MGCS program and is discussing requirements with the US, indicating no clear decision on participation has been made yet.
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Recommendation
Accepted
We trust the creation of and adherence to the proposed Land Industrial Strategy will improve...
Recommendation
We trust the creation of and adherence to the proposed Land Industrial Strategy will improve the UK’s competitiveness in this sector. The Ministry of Defence, the British Army and their Industry counterparts must work together to map out the coming …
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Government Response Summary
The government welcomes and agrees with the recommendation, explaining that the Land Industrial Strategy will foster a greater partnership with industry and provide a sustainable work pipeline. A Land Capability Campaigns Office has also been established under UK Defence and Security Exports to coordinate export campaigns across government and industry, aligning with the call to map out the sector's future.
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Conclusion
Accepted
Para 108
This report reveals a woeful story of bureaucratic procrastination, military indecision, financial mismanagement and general...
Conclusion
This report reveals a woeful story of bureaucratic procrastination, military indecision, financial mismanagement and general ineptitude, which have continually bedevilled attempts to properly re-equip the British Army over the last two decades. Even on the MoD’s own current plans (but …
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Government Response Summary
The government acknowledges past issues but highlights a focus on urgent operational requirements. It states the Integrated Review and 'Future Soldier' plan will radically transform the Army, committing to equipping two Heavy Brigade Combat Teams with Ajax, Challenger 3, and Boxer vehicles, accelerating the Boxer program to full operational capability by 2030.
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Conclusion
Accepted
Were the British Army to have to fight a peer adversary—a euphemism for Russia— in...
Conclusion
Were the British Army to have to fight a peer adversary—a euphemism for Russia— in Eastern Europe in the next few years, whilst our soldiers would undoubtedly remain amongst the finest in the world, they would, disgracefully, be forced to …
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Government Response Summary
The government agrees that the UK's technical advantage has diminished and acknowledges the need for evolution, stating the current AFV fleet remains fit for purpose against the most likely threats. It describes ongoing modernization programs and investment in R&D to counter long-range fires and develop future capabilities.
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