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P-003532 · Statement · Decision date: 20 May 2025 · View HM Revenue & Customs scorecard
Complaint (AI summary)
Mr A complained HMRC gave him incorrect tax advice in 2012, resulting in penalty charges from German tax authorities and causing him stress and worry.
Outcome (AI summary)
Closed. The ombudsman found HMRC did not provide incorrect information to Mr A in 2012, based on the evidence available.

Full decision details

The Complaint

5.Mr A is complaining to us about the actions of HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC). He tells us that he moved to Germany in 2012 and was advised by HMRC that he should pay his taxes to it. He says that in 2019 the German tax authorities contacted him and advised him he needed to pay additional taxes to it as well as fees for late payments. Mr A tells us following a referral by HMRC, he spoke with the UK Mutual Agreement Procedure (MAP), about his complaint and says it told him he received incorrect advice in 2012 from HMRC.

6.He tells us that the incorrect information he received from HMRC has resulted in him receiving penalty charges from the German tax authorities. Mr A tells us that this matter has caused him stress and worry, and he says, ‘I feel I am being walked upon’.

7.Mr A would like financial compensation of 4759 Euros, which is equal to the late payment demand received from the German tax authorities.

Background

8.Mr A is complaining to us about HMRC and information it gave to him about taxes in Germany. He tells us that he contacted HMRC in 2012 and explained that he would be moving to Germany and wanted to know what his tax liabilities would be. Mr A says that HMRC told him he should continue paying his taxes to HMRC.

9.He says that in 2018 he received a notification from the German tax authorities stating that some of his tax needed to be paid to it, in addition to late payment charges. Mr A says that he was advised that he should contact the UK Mutual Agreement Pact (MAP) for further information. He says that he did this and based on the information provided by Mr A, it said he may have been given incorrect advice in 2012.

10.Mr A has said he would like HMRC to pay the money owed to the German tax authorities, totalling 4759 Euro, as he says this money has accumulated because of the ‘advice’ he was given during the 2012 telephone call with HMRC. This was rejected by HMRC, and he opted to refer his case on to The Adjudicator’s Office (AO) in May 2024.

11.The AO provided Mr A with its decision in September 2024 and said it did not uphold his complaint. As Mr A remained unhappy with this response, he brought his complaint to our Office in November 2024.

Findings

14.Mr A has corresponded with us about this matter and has made it clear in his communications with us that he strongly believes this should be resolved by HMRC. He tells us he acted in line with the information he received from HMRC in 2012 and says HMRC should be responsible for paying this penalty of 4,759 Euros.

15.Mr A says that during the telephone call with HMRC in 2012, which took place shortly before he moved to Germany, he asked about his tax liabilities, and he says HMRC advised him he should continue to pay his taxes to HMRC. In his email correspondence, he tells us that he followed the information he was given during the 2012 telephone call and continued to pay his taxes to HMRC.

16.In our role, we look at what should have happened, what did happen and whether any gap between the two is so serious, that it indicates maladministration, or a service failure has occurred. Where there is conflicting evidence or uncertainty about what did happen, we consider whether something is more likely or not to have happened, based on the simple balance of probability.

17.We contacted HMRC to request copies of its telephone records, and specifically the records for the 2012 telephone call. HMRC informed us that the telephone call recording is no longer in existence, in line with its data retention policy.

18.This policy, referenced above under ‘Evidence’, states that the ‘the default retention period for HMRC is 6 years plus current, otherwise known as 6 years +1’. The policy goes on to explain that this may vary depending on the type of record in question. As the call was deleted in line with HMRC’s policy, there are no indications of maladministration here.

19.The call in question is no longer available so, like the AO, we are unable to listen to what Mr A and HMRC discussed during the 2012 telephone call. Therefore, as the call recording no longer exists, we asked to see a copy of the notes from the telephone call.

20.When members of the public contact HMRC, their calls are usually recorded and may be attached to the individual file. However, in addition to the call recording itself, there will usually be call notes on the system which outline what was discussed.

21.HMRC provided us with a copy of the screenshot of the records. We can see entries from between 2010 and 2014. While these are brief, they give an overview of why Mr A contacted HMRC on each occasion.

22.In 2012, there are three entries with one about a review, one about a repayment, and one about an address change. There are no specific references that indicate Mr A asked about his tax liabilities upon moving to Germany. To be clear, that does not mean that Mr A did not raise this during the call, but there is no corroborative evidence which shows that he did.

23.Our Principles of Good Administration state public bodies should ensure customers are clear about their entitlements, do what they say they will do, and behave helpfully. They should also create and maintain reliable records.

24.HMRC appears to have dealt with Mr A’s requests and has been able to provide us with a written record of its interactions with him. While these are brief, there is no reference to tax liabilities being discussed. While not dismissing Mr A’s view, we feel on the balance of probabilities, HMRC did not provide incorrect information in 2012. Therefore, as it acted in line with our principles, there are no indications of maladministration.

25.In addition, Mr A tells us that he contacted MAP about what had happened and his concerns about the 2012 telephone call and states that MAP supported his assertion that he may have received incorrect information in 2012. The email from MAP, sent in October 2022, states that ‘I note that, back in 2012 my colleagues may have given you incorrect advice regarding the taxation of your UK interest’.

26.Like the AO, we have reviewed the limited evidence available in this case. In an email to us, dated 20 February 2022, Mr A stated that ‘I followed instructions given from HMRC in 2012 to continue paying my taxes to UK when coming to live in Germany. I have no written HMRC evidence’.

27.Our Principles of Good Complaint Handling say that organisations should, ‘Be open and honest when accounting for their decisions and actions. They should give clear evidence-based explanations for reasons for their decisions’.

28.Unfortunately, like the AO before us, we have not seen any evidence to show that Mr A was misadvised during the 2012 telephone call. Regrettably, due to the time that has elapsed, the original call recording no longer exists, and the limited call notes available do not indicate that future tax liabilities were discuss.

29.Therefore, on a balance of probabilities we cannot see any indications of maladministration as the only piece of evidence available, does not indicate a service failing by HMRC. We will not be taking any further action at this time.

Our Decision

1.We have carefully considered Mr A’s complaint about HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC).

2.We can see from his correspondence that he is unhappy with the responses he has received and believes he has received incorrect information from HMRC. We were sorry to hear these events have caused him such frustration.

3.Having considered the evidence available to us, and the standards and guidance that set out how HMRC should carry out its work, we have decided to take no further action. This is because we found HMRC, on the balance of probabilities, did not provide incorrect information to Mr A in 2012.

4.The complaints we receive give us valuable insight into the organisations we investigate, so we would like to thank Mr A for sharing his experience with us. We appreciate Mr A feels strongly about the complaint, and our statement below sets out the reasons for our decision.

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